In the footsteps of the discussion in the FB group Socionics international.
“We see in the art of Marina Abramovich a lot of drama, in a way that she experiments with her body and sacrifice it to art. It is like a fight and tension. If there is no drama in life, then EIE (ENFJ) will create it anywhere and will always find something to condemn and fight with. Wherever there is EIE, there is a dynamics as in the famous poem of Alexander Blok “On the field Kulikov”: Eternal fight! Rest only in our dreams.
People of Napoleon type (SEE – ESFP) love their body and themselves, express the energy of a strong personality, confident, fun and happy. SEE fights if there is a need and someone is in their way, criticising them, trying to teach how to live, etc. SEE can be verbally rude and aggressive.
As for Marina Abramovich, she does not have confidence of her body, carefree and cheerful character, as well as a negligence to others. Different values. In her art, there is an explicit connection with the energy of Superid while Marina’s type belongs to Ego energy/ego-type .
SEE is more selfish, which is expressed in their behavior and attitude: “I don’t care. Keep your opinion for yourself. I do as I wish. ” In this we see the love for freedom from society norms in SEE. And if you know people with a leading SE, then you should remember such attitude in their behaviour and judgment. They do not manipulate the opinion of the public, but rather they follow their natural instinct and desire to push aside all who disagree with them. Their mission is in the demonstration of the physical beauty of the body as natural strength, self-confidence, negligence in relation to others and the satisfaction of their desires.
Marina, on the contrary, pays a lot of attention to the formation (management) of public opinion through art. She has imagination and in her head everything is much more complex than in Britney’s head.
SEE appreciates the physical beauty of the body and the outfits underline it. At the level of instincts, people like healthy, full strength and beautiful body. This guarantees healthy offspring. While Marina creates an image to express one or another idea. Ideas are considered abstract and belong to socionics typology to intuition. For her is important the emotional reaction of people to her art. She creates a strong emotional impression, inspires people to achieve more, to work with fears and psychological restrictions inside your mind. With her own art, she shows that a man is strong and is capable of more than he may think of.
In her art we see vulnerability of sensing. Marina deliberately pushes her body to the limit, proving for herself and for others that the boundaries of our body are illusory. As all artists personify their fears and weaknesses in art, the same we observe with Marina. Her physical body is weaker than her spirit. This is a kind of act of psychotherapy. People who watch her experiments about body endurance become accomplices and experience what Marina is going through, admiring her strength of character. The depth of experience of people observing her acts depends on the ability of a person, and the abilities of people are somewhat different. Still people of different kind may admire her humility of the flesh and asceticism.
Marina’s “living art” remains in memory forever or for a very long time (Ni function). Her natural desire is that you will not forget her art and her as an artist. Remember, as Pushkin wrote in his poem: “I have erected a monument for myself not made by hands”. In a sense, there is a similarity in the desire to be special and remain living memory in extroverted types, including both SEE (ESFP) and EIE (ENFJ). Marina in one of the video told about the portrait in her museum. She would like people to touch the portrait, physical interaction. She wants to continue to be always physically present and be like a “living” object of art. She found her way of self-expression in an attempt to help people to realise the strength of their vision as a driving force over the limitation of the body.
Britney does not need to do something special with her body to impress the audience. Her body is not about emotional influence, but simply to show the power of nature so that you do not mess about with her as she can stand up for herself and has a strong will. It’s all. She very well expresses her function of sensory power in appearance, movements, clothes and manners. She does it effortlessly, because it is natural for her to be sexy and it is reflected well in photos.
Her outfits open up the body in such a way as to show strength and beauty. It is a clearly seen difference of values between Se and Fe dominant types compared, for example, to EII (INFJ) who cannot “professionally” demonstrate their Se.
In the photos of Britney, we also notice explicit irrationality in some of her outfits. She wears what she wants and behaves as saying: “I don’t care what others think about me.”
As you know, the main motivation for SEE is the satisfaction of their desires: “I like it, and if you don’t, then this is your problem, not mine.” For EIE, on the contrary, the appearance must be in agreement with society norms – what is accepted as beautiful and stylish, while their movement of the body remains stiff due to the vulnerability of sensory. In relation to the dress code EIE strive to look always flawlessly.
“We see in the art of Marina Abramovich a lot of drama, in a way that she experiments with her body and sacrifice it to art. It is like a fight and tension. If there is no drama in life, then EIE (ENFJ) will create it anywhere and will always find something to condemn and fight with. Wherever there is EIE, there is a dynamics as in the famous poem of Alexander Blok “On the field Kulikov”: Eternal fight! Rest only in our dreams.
People of Napoleon type (SEE – ESFP) love their body and themselves, express the energy of a strong personality, confident, fun and happy. SEE fights if there is a need and someone is in their way, criticising them, trying to teach how to live, etc. SEE can be verbally rude and aggressive.
As for Marina Abramovich, she does not have confidence of her body, carefree and cheerful character, as well as a negligence to others. Different values. In her art, there is an explicit connection with the energy of Superid while Marina’s type belongs to Ego energy/ego-type .
SEE is more selfish, which is expressed in their behavior and attitude: “I don’t care. Keep your opinion for yourself. I do as I wish. ” In this we see the love for freedom from society norms in SEE. And if you know people with a leading SE, then you should remember such attitude in their behaviour and judgment. They do not manipulate the opinion of the public, but rather they follow their natural instinct and desire to push aside all who disagree with them. Their mission is in the demonstration of the physical beauty of the body as natural strength, self-confidence, negligence in relation to others and the satisfaction of their desires.
Marina, on the contrary, pays a lot of attention to the formation (management) of public opinion through art. She has imagination and in her head everything is much more complex than in Britney’s head.
SEE appreciates the physical beauty of the body and the outfits underline it. At the level of instincts, people like healthy, full strength and beautiful body. This guarantees healthy offspring. While Marina creates an image to express one or another idea. Ideas are considered abstract and belong to socionics typology to intuition. For her is important the emotional reaction of people to her art. She creates a strong emotional impression, inspires people to achieve more, to work with fears and psychological restrictions inside your mind. With her own art, she shows that a man is strong and is capable of more than he may think of.
In her art we see vulnerability of sensing. Marina deliberately pushes her body to the limit, proving for herself and for others that the boundaries of our body are illusory. As all artists personify their fears and weaknesses in art, the same we observe with Marina. Her physical body is weaker than her spirit. This is a kind of act of psychotherapy. People who watch her experiments about body endurance become accomplices and experience what Marina is going through, admiring her strength of character. The depth of experience of people observing her acts depends on the ability of a person, and the abilities of people are somewhat different. Still people of different kind may admire her humility of the flesh and asceticism.
Marina’s “living art” remains in memory forever or for a very long time (Ni function). Her natural desire is that you will not forget her art and her as an artist. Remember, as Pushkin wrote in his poem: “I have erected a monument for myself not made by hands”. In a sense, there is a similarity in the desire to be special and remain living memory in extroverted types, including both SEE (ESFP) and EIE (ENFJ). Marina in one of the video told about the portrait in her museum. She would like people to touch the portrait, physical interaction. She wants to continue to be always physically present and be like a “living” object of art. She found her way of self-expression in an attempt to help people to realise the strength of their vision as a driving force over the limitation of the body.
Britney does not need to do something special with her body to impress the audience. Her body is not about emotional influence, but simply to show the power of nature so that you do not mess about with her as she can stand up for herself and has a strong will. It’s all. She very well expresses her function of sensory power in appearance, movements, clothes and manners. She does it effortlessly, because it is natural for her to be sexy and it is reflected well in photos.
Her outfits open up the body in such a way as to show strength and beauty. It is a clearly seen difference of values between Se and Fe dominant types compared, for example, to EII (INFJ) who cannot “professionally” demonstrate their Se.
In the photos of Britney, we also notice explicit irrationality in some of her outfits. She wears what she wants and behaves as saying: “I don’t care what others think about me.”
As you know, the main motivation for SEE is the satisfaction of their desires: “I like it, and if you don’t, then this is your problem, not mine.” For EIE, on the contrary, the appearance must be in agreement with society norms – what is accepted as beautiful and stylish, while their movement of the body remains stiff due to the vulnerability of sensory. In relation to the dress code EIE strive to look always flawlessly.
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